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All right, well, yeah, it's easy to do. My friend Norm with us, I'm W70H. My friend Norm N7GRN is with me. We're both extras. But I'm a volunteer examiner. And I'll tell you, we test people. I've seen six-year-olds get their technician without too much trouble. There's some simple classes to take online. You should do it in study mode and don't just take practice tests. it�s pretty straightforward. The science in it is pretty short. Really nerdy friends can get through it without even studying. So don�t hesitate to leap into it and there�s always owners like your friend Jim there talking to you how they can help you with any questions you have. And it�s fun. On this repeater I�m on in Seattle, it may be the 9 o�clock He is talking about nine in the evening, our time in Seattle, noon and nine, but we have people from all over the country, some folks from Australia join in and from England, sometimes Caribbean, South America, all over the world and that may be through some internet connectivity but we can even run some of that from our phone. I can be traveling, I can cruise, I will join the nets this summer when I am in Alaska on the water, just the internet connectivity, so right now I'm in my car on a radio, but lots of ways to handle it and if you take the next step you can get an HF and do Around the World Direct.