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All right, hold on just a second there if you can, Louie. Yeah, that was Irene, K-F-7-W-U-D. We lost Irene back in 2020, unfortunately. Yeah, and that's who's sitting next to Larry in the photo. All right, hey, thanks. You know, real quick, I think you've got a pretty funny story I bet you could tell it pretty quick about one event you had at the Black Dog Forge where Larry was looking around at some of the wares that you and Barry have created over the years and have on display there. and I think he was looking at possibly some manacles or handcuffs and kind of questioning their provenance to you.