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I do use Echolink but the only thing I've really done with Echolink so far is use it to call in on this repeater for example if I'm in China or in Hawaii or some other far away place. Echolink works pretty good. I find it's inconsistent. I don't know if it's me or my computer or my phone or whatever but sometimes I'll go to use Echolink on my phone and it works great and the next day I go to use Echolink and I can't make it work and same for my computer sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't so I'm considering or I have considered getting an all-star node but then that's one more piece of hardware to haul around and so I don't know I'm kind of on the fence about that it hasn't been a high priority but but are you suggesting I should not be using the repeater or her have some better way of communicating for example