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That would be interesting to do. Tonight I am actually, what time is it, okay it's one thirty-six in the morning. I should be sleeping but I've been up trying to get a little bit of work done. I mentioned expense reports. I was working on expense reports this week. That took me several days to get that all finished and I'm working on some other business related stuff so I probably should be getting off to sleep. But I will look up Echolink and figure out how to use it to call a particular individual. I don't know how so I will read up on that and get myself educated. Right now my brain is getting a little foggy so I don't want to attempt that at this moment. Back to you Ian. This is repeater station. Well that is exactly what I was thinking. Obviously not convenient now but on another occasion I can talk you through it. I also use a program called Jitsi where you can go online and look at my computer and then I can sort of whiz around on my computer. You can see my screen and see what I'm doing and so that's another thing. Obviously I use Quick Assist as well. You're probably familiar with it if there are any technical issues but yeah that would be good. I mean I've been on Echolink ever since it started so I'm quite familiar with it. My number by the way is 1028 and it started at 1000 and so I got the 28th listing but And I noticed that there are a couple of links on in China at the moment on my co-link so I don't know if you've looked but and I did operate when I was in China in Beijing in the hotel. It worked fine like you found. I don't know whether you're using on the phone you're using a proxy or you're familiar with proxies and all this but there's areas to sort of work through I can demonstrate. I use proxies all the time, so there's all that. And then of course you've got the opportunity of the countries list. And yeah, I do have All Star. Well, I've got DV Switch on my phone, so I get access to All Star and DV Switch. And then I do have it on the computer. I think I told you I'm running this repurposed iMac 27, nice. And I've got the web transceiver on it which runs under Windows for all star. We don't need any extra equipment Okay, then I'll make this my final Tim nice to catch up with you and Catch you again sometime. G3 ZHI