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I'm sorry. Lucy is our 13-year-old Australian Shepherd Collie mix that we've had forever. She's the boss of the dogs. And every so often, Willow thinks she's going to get away with something, and Lucy puts her in her place, and that's just happened. Anyhow, where was I? Oh, yeah, there's Jeff. He's from North Carolina, western North Carolina. And I was stationed at Fort Bragg for a number of years, and I got to travel around North Carolina out of it and South Carolina and Georgia and so anyhow I'm interested to hear more about his because they are people that believe in traditions they believe in their history so kj5 I like you sending it to km4 QBC