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Well I love that, that's you and your hubster and the trees now that you were saying those heights and I was like yeah yeah I can see there's like there's a uh a 70 inch tree there and then there's a oh I forget what it is an inches the tall the hub tall hubster yes I am merely 67 inches long also known as 170 centimeters and let's see and also I know my weight in kilos too I'm 96 kilos which is too heavy for me I'm not happy with it I used to when I was an 80 I was only about 70 kilos and but but I also I wrote by my height on the door you're reaching the heights of you and your husband and this is the I used a pencil and I put the book on my head and wrote the line on the door jamb and I labeled it there 67 inches and of course when you're born they measure your, I don't see I was 20 inches long you know and so now I'm just longer I'm 67 inches long and a wee bit heavier anyway I love that Alec that's great you know that twin tree logo the reason you see that everywhere. That's a co-op, a cooperative symbol. But I guess your relationship is cooperative, right? And you each have a share in the corporation? Yeah. I've been looking at this guy. You approach radio as both a tool and a craft. Useful in real world situations. There's also something worth understanding deeply. Yeah, it is. It's a kind of craft. And radio operators have a lot in common with crafters