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Well, Jack, no. I stand out in the middle of the street and I try to hold it because you know in night vision it opens the aperture for a while and then closes so if you move any you get a little blurry. So that's why the first picture I posted on the PSRG discussion group was a little blurry. I was so excited that I forgot to stand really, really, really skills so nope I just stand out there and hold the camera and try not to move try not to breathe and hope for the best Jack ww7k and back to you