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And then, and only then, if you've got all of those things correct, you can have a Q-Star on DMR. D-Star, a little bit easier, because most of the reflectors, or the common ones anyway, are programmed into a new ICOM. You know, from the factory, a lot of the repeaters around your area are. And if they're not, you can download your area onto an SD card and auto-program those repeaters. It's really good, D-Star is. It's a bit more user-friendly than DMR. DMR, you're still programming, even though you're a ham, you're still programming a commercial radio environment as a ham, right? And that's very, very technical, but hams have been doing it for, what, 15 years now, maybe a little more than that.

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