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N9OFU this is KC2PKG just refilling the cat's water here you know when I was living in Boston there was a store that was famous for shoppers fighting it's called was called Filene's and they had a basement which was today would have a sale every once in a while and it would get on the news you'd be slugging it out women would be punching each other and kicking each other and ripping the clothes off them and after watching that and seeing that for a little and I stay out of I really don't like shopping I just don't I you know I don't mind going and getting something I need but I don't want to shop and wander around and see what there is I just targeted hit it's gonna take what I want and then I'm going to go so I have not been shopping on Black Friday forever or anything like I don't even let go of them all. A couple other things. You know, I had the Big Easy, I had it about halfway up. And it had been further up than that, and my son's turkey was turning very dark. And so we turned it down halfway, and that's when it went out. Once we cranked it back up again to like 3 quarters, because it's adjustable, but we cranked it up to 3 quarters, And it kept running. So I suspect that that's what was going on with that. It may be more like what Rick is talking about. In other words, it's either on or off. And I was using the adjustable function. And some puff of wind or something came on and put it out. It started right up again. So I don't think it's a regular problem. In other news, let me drop it for a second. You