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OK, net control, let me just put this in, I did write it down, M7, K-I-U, OK, let me see who that is, that is of course Ben, so Ben, good to see you there sir, I've added you to the list there Ben, and we weren't looking for check-ins there, so I don't encourage that kind of behaviour, hi hi, but Ben, you know it's Christmas stuff, we've got you there sir, we've had a few check-ins on the email window as well, so no problem at all, right, and we'll come to you shortly, but let's go and see what's happening with Dave out there in Westland, Michigan. KF8, Fox Bravo, Bravo, microphone to you, sir.