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I have a 30-30 Winchester saddle rifle. Could not hit a thing just before dusk and I put a shadow cover on the end of the barrel and four inches from the chest those circles were the same size so then all you have to do is adjust your altitude, attitude and you could bring home a deer at 135 yards just by winding those two circles up and then adjusting for your rising bullet. Anyway, everyone have a good day, 87 MR out, secure again. I just couldn't pass that up, 87 MR out. This is repeater station Kilo Kilo 7 November Quebec November, All Star Node 6222, located in Shelton, Washington.