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No, I'm just curious because when I thought it was just JAWS alone, I found all the documentation talking about how JAWS works really good on Windows 10, Windows 11, that kind of thing. Win Link, would you call that one program Win Something? That's a music program, is it not? know Winamp is a play your a play your and it'll play your music it'll play it'll play all things audio and it's just a damn good player for a blind person and depending on where you go people still rely on it and other people don't like for instance if you do any kind of broadcasting or podcasting most Most of those outfits force you to get something called Station Playlist, I think it's called, and there's something else. And it's like their own design custom players. And it's one reason I don't get with them, because I'm like, you don't let me use Winamp? Go blow.