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Well thank you very much Michael. Yeah I give about twice that much to a couple of different public radio stations but then I give something in between to a third public radio station. One of them is my old public radio station back in the upper midwest and the reason I decided to send them some money instead of another one of the local ones is because the ones here in Seattle are going to survive. They're going to make it fine but the public radio stations that are not are going to be the rural stations like the one that's like the one in the whole Upper Peninsula of Michigan, WNMU, FM, and TV. It's like a university-run station but it's a tiny university, you know, it's this university the size of a liberal arts college. But the advantage to that was having full professors teaching my classes instead of lectures on TV screens but anyway I would tell you more about my alma mater but I stay focused on the net yeah it's a whole other bag of worms isn't it but instead of talking about those things I'll go back to the radio and say oh yes and then you're probably right I'd say minus 45, I would have guessed off hand it would be minus 45 for a night, but as you know, and I know, be known to you and be known to me, but unbeknownst to many, is minus 40 is where the scales meet, which is why the best REI sleeping bags that are rated to minus 40 degrees don't have to say anything else, like the Sorelle Mark 5 boots are rated to minus 40 degrees that doesn't specify which scale because it doesn't matter at that temperature.