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Yeah, we don't communicate too much. When we were younger, we went down to California and visited them down in 1947. They came up and visited here a couple times in the Portland area. We're aware of them, but the one cousin that I know worked for the post office, he passed away and it's quite possible that she has passed away but we just don't have contact with them to know that anything happened so yeah it's kind of tough I think maybe you can go on the internet and pay money maybe and get people's phone numbers I'm not sure or possibly an address but I'll have to check that out. KV-7 PW