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You and I share many of the same traits about many parts of our lives and yes indeed I save my boxes for the gear I like to be able to pack it up if I need to take something out for a rain or shine net or You know I need to use it for something else briefly But yes, I have the gear out the box is stored safely away in the garage So yeah, you and I are very similar in that way, and yeah I'd like to get rid of all the cardboard I can I use it where I need it And if I don't need it, yep, it goes out and gets recycled. So yeah, how about that are you're not alone there brother back to you Henry