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Go ahead with a comment. Sorry, I didn't hear that. I was busy with the little ones. So yes, the arrow approach, definitely you wanna practice in some low branches and a lot of space of wood. However, I did find that it doesn't go real far with a line behind it, which is after exhausting several slingshot options, I ended up getting, obtaining that bow and arrow and doing that approach but weighting it down with a lot of weight in the front as well certainly helps sinker so yeah nine ounces of weight on the front of the arrow but that definitely helps it come down the other side which is also difficult sometimes with with depending on your cord that's where the micro cord works really well much better than thicker cords ke7 in ui back tonight