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Okay KC2 PKG returning. Because of the wind and storms and stuff like that I use verticals here. They're the most successful ones. I've had a whole bunch of yagi antennas just turned into twisted bits of metal by 60 mile an hour wind. And I don't have any wires in the trees because they won't stay there. So you know when the trees are whopping back and forth the wires come right out. But if you look at the top of my garage at the peaks there's at least two there and if you look at my remote site which is at 191 Hell Point Road the beta site that has antennas some of which are inside some of which are outside and they're all on the boathouse. So it's hard to tell what kind of setup I have but I did I put them up on the peaks of the roofs my wife doesn't have to look at them because nobody ever looks up I've discovered that about people when they're looking they don't look up very often so you can you can go come on come right over to my house and you won't see the antennas because they're above your line of sight even though there are 30 and 40 feet tall so there you go anyway Back to you, this is a good question and I keep phrasing it right, but I go through that too. You know I rephrase the question as I get more and more used to it, the more I ask it I go okay well here is a clearer way of saying it. Anyway, thanks a lot KJ5IRQ this is KC2PKG.