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I have a picture of somewhere, I'll try to find it, a digital picture, and it shows Hell's Gate before they built the dam. You can actually see ragged ruts. I think the picture is, gosh I don't remember when, anyhow, it's a picture of Hell's Gate before they built the dam and flooded it, and so I'll try to find it and send it to you. I think you would find that really interesting.