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Yeah, and okay the Firefox That's telling you about the older version that will work with XP and still and give you your JAWS Is still available for download So you're looking at Firefox Firefox, excuse me fifty two point nine point oh and You can download it off an FTP website FTP Mozilla org just so you know that too. I know this sometime earlier this year I just kept hitting that download button until it wouldn't do it anymore it did it up to a point right because if you do it and you don't have the new it just it's you know it's painless as possible right. You hit a couple of buttons it's there Firefox just even knows how to even you don't even need executables it knows to even install it but I hit a roadblock sometime this year so it means I must have that version. I didn't look at the numbers but I'm assuming if it doesn't go any further then it must be that version. Yeah but I read here, I read something that you really better know, when they're calling the Firefox link, you gotta make sure the 32-bit version like you said and you need a tough auto update and you only can use it on trusted websites because it doesn't have the protection that it should have um so yeah you know what just stay away from that that suggestion for firefox that i was telling you about and look for the new moon because that is supported it is up to date you can use it on the browser anywhere and yeah that's the one I try new moon that's my that's my opinion that is my expert opinion hey look I'm glad I didn't say an older computer my friend Debbie Marsha's sister I don't know what I'm not gonna say because I don't know I'll get it wrong but I think she's using an old ass computer too so I don't know what can I say I guess there's a lot of old ass computers I mean besides hams if hams like old computers for cast based things right like I'm setting up a node putting an old ass computer on it but but the rest of the world, I don't know. Another question, I had my mic out of the air again and every time I drink my coffee, I put my boom mic up so I can drink my coffee. Is JAWS the only reason why you don't upgrade your computer or your operating system?