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I think in many respects it can be a life saver because people are HOA or moving into places for old people and there's no alternative but you can do a lot with a mobile phone, cell phone regarding the hobby I've got something to get through this alley way Echo Link on it, Peanut of course, if you like chatting, it's ideal. But Yoroshibu is a big believer in code, they say young people like code, and putting their name in code, they promote the hobby as a code type hobby, which is a bit bizarre. Young people have got cell phones nowadays. In fact everybody's got cell phones. I wonder if there's any hams that don't have a cell phone. That would be strange.