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Thank you, sir. Yeah, cuz I tried to bring it up on the phone and it said oh you got to use it comb or one of the other like browser programs to do it, so I Looked at it though. It looks like it's pretty easy to like if it looks a lot easier to use So there you go. We'll have to try that later. I've got one them sitting here beside me. I'll give it a try later later so do I need I don't so do I still need the programming I don't need a programming table at all then this is all or do I I don't even know all right you still need your programming cable but you have to use a Chrome or chromium-based browser the Firefox browser and Safari browser don't support a USB connection to a device like this but once you connect it up it'll read and write to the radio just like the program from Bofang. The only thing I found with it is it wouldn't pull up a repeater list for me from my area but that might be because I was in Firefox I don't know I'm gonna try a little later on with a chromium-based browser and see if I can't finally get my dm32 programmed okay yeah no I got it I use I can use I can bring up I can use a chrome anyway whatever their chrome I've got the chrome one on the computer I think somewhere there so I'll take a look at it after let me see if I can do it. I've got the programming cable already hooked up to the computer so I'll play around with it. Yeah yeah if you're using Windows I think ED supports the USB connection because it's chromium based.