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I used to work in in the dot-com world before the first bust Used to do application development with cold fusion. I think it was version for when we stopped using it and They're long long past that this is back. I was using PHP 2 or 3 at the time long long ago Still do stuff for me at home But I do everything from used to do everything when I was in the military from cable plant and retrofit of buildings with Ethernet and network design All the way to database administration database design programming hardware support Not much. I haven't done with computers And then at one point I worked for Rogers Cantel and did cell site service Which is just FM radio So, that was fun too, um, yeah, I've done a lot of things. Grew up doing plumbing and heating, so I always had that to fall back on, saving grace.