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KJ5IRQ this is KC2PKG. I have to apologize for messing up the list. I was I was being adventurous I was going to change the font size so that everything would line up on it and Instead I copied and pasted by mistake and then I had to go back and fix it. Steve logged in in the text box and I wasn't sure that you saw it so I added him to the list too and Then the real trouble ensued couple of things that George said made a huge amount of sense and something additional. You wouldn't want hams doing that because for a couple of reasons. First it's hard to get hams together to cooperate and do anything. Second, they'll be the first ones to turn you in. They turn each other in all the time and for made-up rules. I'm glad I'm not on the FCC desk which takes complaints from hams about other hams because I'm sure that phone doesn't stop ringing all day so it wouldn't be good however he did mention that you know having a broadcast station do it um that would be if you wanted to do audio that would be doing it that'd be a good way to do it and there was a guy who designed an app um in Chicago I believe he lived in Chicago and it was up for quite a while and then um Apple was asked to take it down off the Apple store and also the Google Play Store. So the app is unavailable now. I guess you can get it another way though, especially if you're Android, you can get it another way. I learned my lesson, winter lesson, once again, because I didn't get out and cut pathways across the deck, right away, as soon as the snow stopped falling, it all froze. And so it's like walking on knives to you. Cause I mostly don't put my shoes on when I go outside in the winter. You know, unless I'm going for a long way, I don't put my shoes on. I like the feel of the snow. It cleans your feet. It's great. But not when it's frozen knives sticking in the bottom of your feet. I was listening to the description of having frozen leaves in your gutters, and it came back to me that I designed my house without gutters. There are no gutters in my house. There are trenches along the outside of the house, and they're filled with gravel, and the rain comes off the roof and falls into the trenches. And I never have to clean the gutter, so that's good. Lastly, you asked about unusual Christmas conditions. And I'm surprised, I never hear about this, but it's called the pickle present. So in other words, you have one of your ornaments is a pickle, let me drop it for a second.