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Yeah, I'm not sure if that will be confused now and then and Doug is dr. J Probably where both of them are still don't want to be looking at roofs, man. You want to look at backyards? either the real dedicated hams you want to look for towers and For the semi dedicated or with people without the ability to put up won't normally like a deck They'll attach something to you may be being misled by the I don't have anything on my roof and for a digital ham, well a voice over IP, you can only get to it with an email. I'll give you... I'll give you... I'll give you...