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V01UKZ, this is an interesting conversation we're having here because I've been reading a whole bunch of stuff lately about the shutdown and whether the Democrats you know won that battle or walked away snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and and this Epstein thing is just you know another thing it looks to me like I'm just reading what the Times wrote that Epstein thought they had a relationship and he was able to make enough convenient answers for him if he ever got questions on questioned on it but you know I wonder and somebody else said you know what are they going to do about it well I'm not sure nothing sticks to Mr. Trump it just got big doesn't and now it's possible that because of the shutdown that the Democrats you know forced that people noticed that it was about health insurance and that the Republicans in Congress didn't seem too concerned about that they noticed that will they remember it next election I don't know you know Trump was not very concerned about SNAP benefits as a matter of fact he went up to the Supreme Court to make sure that he still could release a partial amount even though a judge two judges had told him no you got to release the whole thing and but he said no we're gonna go to the Supreme Court with this and so that should stick in somebody's mind as you know pretty suspicious stuff and just you know really weird that he would do that but does anybody remember that I mean his polls are very low right now but they're not crashed so they're in the 30s and they've always been in the 30s any of those people who probably have used SNAP benefits and stuff like that today even care that's what it really comes down to in in politics in the US it's like two of the voters really care you know the guy was a convicted felon but no that must be bogus yeah look at that as you know and eliminating characteristic so it's weird I think let me drop it for a second