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K-B-9-I-Q-X. Anyway, I was just going to be pedantic and say yeah, that previous check-in about the ISS lower pass yeah, if you if you're using a, and I know this through experience, I kind of wondered I was like, well this was a beautiful high pass, why was my signal so, why was my receive so bad? And then I realized, oh yeah dummy, I was using a vertical antenna and on high passes they're great for, yeah, for showing unknown passersby the beauty and wonder of the ISS streaking across the sky, but if you're trying to get a signal that high pass is going right above the null of your vertical antenna, so that's why the low passes often have so much better results I've actually gone to the, I've actually had an antenna and I've held it like a sword and just kind of held it perpendicular, wielded it like a sword out there in the middle of the street to get a better signal, so yeah, that is the answer for why sometimes those lower passes are much better than the super awesome looking high passes pedantically, KB9IQX, back to net well sometimes pedantic people give you really useful information, Amy, thank you so much it's so obvious that the null of your vertical antenna is overhead, had never occurred to me, I was kicked off about a pass a few days ago very high pass, where I got very poor copy on the SS-TV from my very good vertical, Anfang J. Polnayatik I was thinking, oh I got in a conversation with another fellow about polarization which I know the polarization of that stuff whatever it is it doesn't matter because it all ends up circular into the ionosphere, but yeah, think about your radiation pattern, Amy, thank you, gosh if that SS-TV keeps going tomorrow I am going to be all over it with my new found knowledge from my friend Amy thank you so much, let's see blah blah blah blah, we got everybody in that round, it's getting late but maybe there's somebody out there still wants to talk, this is K7WFP you're listening to the 9pm social net, we want to talk to you so come ahead now with your call sign and your name