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Well I don't have a wood burning source so no I'm just going to be trying to push them back into the field there. There's a big field next door and I'm trying to push them back into the wood line there and let them decompose natural there. So yeah it's a, you know the code wise I'm still trying for code but I tell you what I'm very happy that it's not a requirement these days or I wouldn't be holding the ticket I have. My dad tells me that one day it will just click so I keep trying. I still need to have a 2W Accuso with him and he's pushing 80 something so I need to hurry up. Anyway he was the last radio telegrapher on the west coast he's in the technical turtles so that's an interesting little tidbit there. AG79K back to K1K.