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I'm going to go with the 60s, and I'm shocked that that student of Bill's would say that. That's, when I heard Bill say that, I just, my jaw just dropped, and I'm thinking, we know Bill really well, and that would never happen. So I'm thinking the student must have had some issue with Bill. I'm thinking, I don't know. That's my opinion. I think that the student must have had some issue with Bill, I guess. I don't know. Back to you, Greg.