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Ok Arnold that's fine yeah that's fine I got a couple of the apps on my Android phone one's APRS Droid it's where you can run and beacon and everything GPS, VIA, APRS packet radio and that cost me a one time fee of I think five or ten bucks but I bought it since it was a one time price for the APRS Droid and I got another one I don't know if I paid for it or not I can't remember but it's called the DD switch and it goes on the Android phones you can access any all-star node or repeater or link or whatever if you got the code or the number for it you can tap into it there Roger