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Well, thanks so much, Mike. It's always great to talk to you. It really is. It is a bit of a mystery as well. But sometimes I'll ask a question to somebody who knows DMR well, and they explain it so, so well. And you think, that sounds so simple. And then once you get down to the kind of settings and everything else, you go, ah, that, that, that, I've missed something. Missed that, must have forgotten something. Anyway, we'll get there. We'll get there. Mike, it's always a pleasure, sir. Thank you so much. And they give, they give Bertie a wee squeeze from myself and Helen. And they, of course, Odin is defending a wee ball as well. And they were, we have to compare more notes between Bertie and Odin. This week, actually, very quickly, I wonder if you, as far as the training of Bertie, I know with Springer, Spaniel, and Out and About, and Running and all the rest, with Odin, we haven't let him off the lead, kind of in public yet. Because, you know, there's certain things that give him a big scare, like if a car backfires or something. And we just don't want him running away. So in order to test things, actually, yesterday, we went to one of those secure fields, and then let them off the lead, and gave them lots and lots of exercise. They practiced all the recall, and his recall was fantastic, absolutely brilliant. And they also, you know, the lead, you know, the heel work, and everything else, he was doing absolutely brilliant. So we're a bit more confident now he won't run away if we let him off the lead in public. So what stage are you at with Bertie, as far as kind of letting him off the lead in public, if you ever have done yet? G7, NBA, some now just being nosy, sir. If you don't mind, just one more time, back to you, mate.