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It's like the Wallingford Radio Club, we're never going to be part of Echolink. Never, never, never. K-1, I forget his call sign, he used to tell us at the radio meeting, we want no part of Echolink. I looked 20 years later, I see Wallingford is on Echolink now. I can get up, but people change their minds because they don't understand it. That's the way it goes. Getting back at music, with technology now, you don't have to have a drum set, you don't need to buy a big guitar or drive the neighbors nuts. You can do everything, almost everything. Even the vocal, you just buy a good microphone, you can sing into it and then put that into your music. You can make anything you want right on your computer, so that gives everybody an edge now. It makes everybody equal. If you want to make, create something, you can do it, right on your laptop. Well, because it's very different now. It used to be we possessed music and it meant something when you had to buy it and you owned it and you had hard copies of it. We're in an age now where you basically have disposable music. So it's a lot easier to make, it's a lot easier to get your name out there. You used to have to be, let's say you used to have to be really good or talented because you're making people buy the stuff. But now it's like AI driven, it's not even, I wouldn't even care, I wouldn't even be motivated to even be a part of it. So, and then radio, like terrestrial radio, it's throwaway radio, it really is. I mean, I listen to it, but I know what it is. And then the people I listen to, no one gives a shit about, right? How many people here know about Ottawa now? I know you're out there, I see you leaving. You know, how many people know about the Debbie Hutton show on CFRB? How many people know about Jill Bennett? Those are shows that I like, but come on man, eight people probably listen to them. And they're not in here.