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out there were trades where the people that are doing the stuff really have the knowledge and maybe not necessarily the teacher in the classroom that's trying to teach a trade. They have a certificate maybe but not the experience. I don't know. Well Irene thank you for checking in this afternoon or evening for you and as always it's a pleasure having you on the net. And I'm going to send it back to you one more time to see if you have anything else to say for us today. So G1D TV from N7FGP over to you.