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Well, if that's how, I guess if that's how they want to be, I guess I don't know. I mean I would have been interested to hear what he heard, but I, I didn't listen so, I won't know. Yeah, if I, if I, if I'm not, if I, I don't QSO with that group, so it doesn't look like I will know. I mean if they explicitly come here and mention a little something, that's fine. But, otherwise, I guess I won't know.

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