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But then you can also get some other folks that have been in the discussion with some philosophers and they can Make a case for either one and The That's one here, I'm sure I should mention too far as I get we're talking about math and and quantity this came up on one of the science maps to this fundamental Constants of nature and they describe all the forces nature of mass of the particle of space-time aspects like the speed of light and it's not known how they came about and Why they have the values they have there's about a little more than two dozen around around 26 of these so that falls in with Inherent and we're intrinsic properties of the universe and of course we're now Able to see these and we know how to apply them we still can't understand where they actually come from or why those particular values were Were part of the universe All right trivia one straight trivia for tonight

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