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And thanks for the note on the Norwegian tall ship. Didn't even know that was a thing but since I'm half Norwegian it totally piqued my interest. If you happen to be there by the way and you take pictures, maybe post them on the PSRG discussion group page on Facebook. That would be cool. One of those as heard on the net type things. That's always cool. All right, and as far as that, you know, you mentioned, so a mag mount is not going to stick to an aluminum mesh rolled out anyway. I don't know if that's the right solution on that one. I've used the cookie, by the way, I did the net from my house in Kirkland with an antenna on a cookie sheet for years. And it worked great. I'm a big believer in cookie sheets. So it does do the trick. And 2 meters is a lot, and 440 especially, even more so with 440, is a lot more forgiving when it comes to counter poised type things like that. So yeah, I'm also a fan of the J-Pole, John J-Pole's K9 JEB. When he made those he made hundreds of those J-Poles. And I used to buy them and give them to friends because they're so fantastic. I still have one. Not using it today but anyway. Anyway, that's all the things. If anybody else wants to comment on a counter for 2 meter type things that would be fine and dandy. We'll see what we get, this fishing expedition of the 9 o'clock net here. All right, I'm Ron NR70. This is the 9 o'clock net. If you'd like to join today, I need your name and call.