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I think the year was probably 1980, 1981, 1982 in that area and a neighbor bought an Apple computer. I think it was Apple. It cost $6,000. He was a teacher. He does people's taxes. And he had to buy that. $6,000 back then was a lot of money, Governor. You know that? Just for this little white computer. But he put it in and it did the taxes. It took about 40 minutes. He needed to take it out and that's how he did everyone's taxes. He made a lot of money with it. He was telling me, you can't do it without a computer. You know how many hours that computer saved me even though it took the computer an hour to do the job. He said it would take the media forever. Computers were really needed for certain people. They were life savers for some.

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