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Yeah another way he has this talent okay. I mean I could probably catch on to it I just never have. He can read he can hear PL tones. Remember yesterday you said sometimes it's a pain in the butt to find the PL that a system's on? He has no problem with it. What he does is on the FT-60 if you put the headphones in like the connector on it if you put it in sort of incorrect like sort of not very good half-ass it'll transmit the PL tones that you're listening to so he knows what all of those are. Yeah because I when we used to talk Simplex we'd have PLs all over the place when we use I don't know if the guys are still using it at one point it was 146460 the Aries used it and then we continued to use it with them and I remembered one time he knew he said to me you're on a very low tone and I forgot what he told me it was so he can hear he can hear the difference with that I can read touch tone that's different right that's a series of one two three four five six well it's it's like 12 tones but one tone in each column is the same and and so it's not that hard. I figured it out when I was five for real I did but yeah he he knows the PL tones and he says that he makes his FT-60 transmit the PL tone by just putting in the headphones wrong.