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The van, it worked out pretty good. When we were going, I don't know what the official name of the pass is but it's the grapevine is what everybody calls it. It's what basically separates LA from the rest of California but we got we got up to the rest area. It was it was starting to get warm it wasn't overheating it was just getting warm so we pulled over because we still had at that point like three to 300 miles I'm not sure exactly let's see the 210 is I think 85 miles and then on the 10 was another 60 so maybe we only had less than 200 miles but yeah we just gave it a little break and the land cruiser was a champ it didn't even the temperature gauge didn't even move the whole entire trip but the yeah he was doing 40 miles an hour up the hill and which I guess is a lot better than my sister's van would have done oh but that's a whole different story to laugh about and 7WA