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Like the hard thing, it's almost like a gun holster and you put your radio in it and then the thing snaps down over the top like a magnet and it holds the radio in there nice and good. And you can put it on your belt or you can attach it to like a chest pack. But the second thing I was talking about were chest packs in general. It's like a, almost like a fanny pack but it's kind of square and like, you know, it snaps behind your back and it just hangs on the front of your chest. And you can put like a weapon in there and a radio and like your wallet and stuff like that. Those packs, you ever use one of those? Apparently they're good like for bike riding and hiking and it keeps your valuables right in front of you as opposed to on a backpack.