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Yeah, 20 meters is long all the time. So most of those places like the fives and sixes, Texas California are given on those bands. It's a little harder to do the shorter distance stuff. But you know, let's say Toronto and Oshawa. I mean you might find someone that's still strong enough to get to you, but it's hard to do Right Toronto to Ottawa Right, even if it's three or four hundred miles is still Very, you know hard to do right and then there's certain times that you can but they far They're they're far few then You know the longer stuff which is kind of like it here in T. There is like short propagation work It's a lot of fun. I used to do it right working the sporadic II during the summer that's a lot of fun same as the Ducting on two meters. So, you know, that would be an example of short distance stuff, but it's very Strategically timed isn't all the time. It isn't guaranteed all the time and whether permitting

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