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Well Perth is, the population of Perth is about 2.5 million and it's the most remote capital city on earth. But there is cities out in the rural areas but there are only maybe 30, 40, 50 thousand and there's probably 4 or 5 of them. So we're a long way from anywhere and outside of Perth there is no big city that's for sure. 30,000, sort of a big town maybe. There Richard and it takes about 5 hours for us to fly to Sydney on a good day. And we can fly to Bali in Indonesia from Perth in probably less time and a lot less money. I think we can fly to Bali in Indonesia for about $300. The flight of Sydney would cost $800 but we're nowhere near Bali either. We're several thousand kilometres south. So there you go. You talk to somebody on the telephone, what city or state, what state are they in, the people you talk to down here? Richard over.