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Okay there Brian, yeah I told you understand because TV3CD has got a massive coverage area to show so I just thought you might have been a little bit closer to a bit of a open there and Stanley Crook. As I said we were up there, oh I think we were up in that area for about a week and I can't remember, you missed a couple of years ago now and time flies when you're having fun that's for sure. So we popped in and you know Brian G7OPK, Dennis 2E0G0 is it 2E1GFL? I know approximately where you are there Brian but as I said I wonder how many miles you're actually away from TV3CD because that's 5 watts so you've got rates signal problems whatsoever. M0EXM, TW8SZL.