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It's really called book talk and I've been going there for a little bit. It's called book talk is what I know it as. I'll talk to him this afternoon and see how I can maybe get you in for a little bit. It's only like from about probably 2 to 3 Pacific times. I don't know what it would be in your probably about 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock in your area. I think if I'm under the impression you're in the Central Time Zone. Maybe, I don't know if you're not in the Central. But anyway, that's what I know it as, book talk. Back to you, Gail. Case 0ECK from Casey 7YFE.