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AB9NSK this is KC2PKG you know I can't remember the last time I actually made something out of a pumpkin usually we used to carve them and then throw them away which is very wasteful although pumpkin seeds we used to bake pumpkin seeds quite a bit I just ran across a term that I wanted to let you guys know it's a conflict entrepreneur and it struck me as soon as I read it I was like wow what is that well I I take it to mean somebody who makes money profit likes get some excitement or charge out of conflict and and they were talking about Charlie Kerr you know was he a peacemaker or was he a conflict entrepreneur I mean he certainly cost a lot of conflict and I did never bought the we'll just have friendly debate about it I thought you know the more I look at him the more I hear about what he said when he didn't know that stuff I think that was just a new pulpit for him you know and he was a great debater he was really good so he could destroy his opponents and I don't know I don't know about that but there you go if you were new phrase for your conflict entrepreneur somebody who makes a profit in some way off of conflict he's going to sell you a conflict pretty wild anyway back to you Russell kb9 NSK this is KC to PKG