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I used to fly pigeons, I used to raise them. I raised pigeons probably from the age of eight years old, probably about the time I was fifty. I had all pigeons, I blew them, pigeons are really smart birds, they aren't stupid, and they are clever. Also, they know faces very, very good. I had a vision, I couldn't believe it, they would land right on top of my head. I could be out mowing the lawn and this vision would land right on top of my head, right on my shoulder all the time. I called it Mrs. Shothers, and she was a beautiful vision. They aren't stupid. The hawk idea, they had to get rid of the pigeons because the city was becoming overrun by pigeons and rats, rodents, and it was just decaying the whole city. The pigeons were eating, they were pooping on the bridges and rotting out the steel, so they had to do desperate measures and that was related to the hawks. In fact, in school I knew some people that had told me, now see this is out your way, that had told me while they were in Quebec. So these were a couple of people that had mentioned it. I didn't assume they were lying, hey they must have believed it. They said they were terribly lost and they said a swoop of hawks guided them around and took them where they needed to go. So yeah, they regard hawks in a higher manner than like your seagulls.