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The scheme that I had had the variable speed on it. It was one of those bluish green outfits, but it could play regular cassettes too. You just had to flip the switch up to like the 33 and a third, whatever it was that regular cassettes ran at. And you could play the regular ones, but when you're using the talking book you hit the button to the left and it would slow it way down. And you could slow it down even further with that slider that was on there. And then you had your other button for your other slider for volume and tone, and then the other one that flipped it from side A or side A and B to side C and D, you flip it back to side A. Essentially what they were doing was they were just splitting left and right channels and then slowing the speed way down. Because if you put one of those tapes in a regular player you'd hear the left and right channel at the same time and it would be super fast. But in the proper machine, those four track machines or whatever they were, they played great. I never saw any other players for those tapes except that blue one that the CNIB sold or rented. You say there was other ones? Like I had a Walkman or a tape player that could do it, a Panasonic one, but the only reason it could do it is because it was meant for interviewing people and stuff like that and getting a ton of time out of a tape. But it could play those talking books back too even though I don't think it was intended to be able to.