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Congratulations Brian, you've pinned the problem exactly where it belongs. The problem with the internet, and it is quite a fad, it is only a fad, because we're associating with people we would never normally choose to associate with. These are strangers that are just suddenly in our faces and talking to us, and we would never associate with these people or this kind of person under normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances. When we go back to paper and meeting people in our neighborhood meetings, in council meetings, in community meetings, in church meetings, and existential Buddhist supernatural story meetings like I've heard AA meetings to be, yeah, that's where people meet people. And there's some really wonderful people here in Seattle, and everywhere really. That's another thing about ham radio, you learn to talk to and listen to and appreciate everybody that is legally on here with a license and any side traffic that they bring. Have a good night, and thanks for pointing that out Brian. KJ7VEU 73.