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I thought it was funny, his logic, it was really reasonable. It seemed intelligent when he was like saying, well I'm not gonna trust somebody just with pliers like that. I know he didn't use the exact words, but what I got out of it was, they could be overzealous and what if they do the wrong job? So see that was pretty good logic. I know he didn't say that, but he said enough of it that that's what I got out of it, which is pretty damn smart. Yeah I got that too Kevin. Yeah I was, leave it for Daryl to come up with the plier situation right? Well he is on the rock you know, they are kind of special out there.

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