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89 NSK this is KC 2 PKG you know I'm losing teeth and stuff like that I mean I had three boys and so we went through various stages of you know how you get the baby teeth out and stuff like this and the floss you can tie the plus around you which is a big deal it's not easy to do you know put your giant hands in a very little mouth and then try and get the floss on the tooth and stuff like that so we did use pliers actually forceps is what we used and and then they can do it themselves and we never had an extra tooth pulled out or did anything like that but the floss thing he tried it one one time my son tied the floss to his tooth very carefully did that and then he tied that's lost to a doorknob and the door went the opposite way he thought it would and so it hit him in the face and he jerked back and out came the tooth so that's that's our tooth fairy story back to you. KD9 NSK this is KC 2 PKG