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Well, thank you, Cliff. That's interesting. Yeah, those things were ... Can you imagine the interference that would be caused by that kind of a mechanical device running the radios? Man, that must have made things awful. What else? No, I'm not on NetLogger. I haven't reinstalled it. I upgraded this computer from Debian 12 to Debian 13. I did so much playing around with this computer over the last three or four years installing, uninstalling, experimenting, that sort of thing. It did upgrade to 13 just fine, but then I thought, you know what? Let's just wipe it out and start over. That's what I did. I reinstalled Debian 13 just from the USB stick. I got it all set up, but one thing I haven't yet done is set up the NetLogger, so I will do that again. One other point. I worked whales on FT8, Dave, so maybe there is hope. Anyway, back to you from VE3XDB.